When you combine the disillusionment with the insurance-based, allopathic medical systems with the uncharted waters of treating spikeopathy, it seems like pursuing healthcare in America has become our new Wild West. Clearly, a change has needed to happen for a long time, but having been conditioned to a more structured approach, it feels like we’re all flying by the seat of our pants for the time being and throwing lots of medical spaghetti against the wall. I’ve changed PCPs 3 times in 3 years in a quest to find one that isn’t bound to a large corporation, doesn’t require masks in the treatment room, and doesn’t reflexively write unnecessary prescriptions. If wish the option for catastrophic-only coverage was available in my state, so I could switch to direct primary care without feeling like I was paying double. Thank you as always for your candor about your experiences. With truth and honesty so hard to come by these days (especially in journalism), it’s very comforting to have resources where they give it to you straight.
I always appreciate your thoughts, and your writing Crabjo. My relationships with my PCP and Cardiologist go back twenty five years, and I stick with them because this is a small town and they are good people. But there is always an element of The Twilight Zone to our visits, and I understand that I can only benefit from their experience to a point. Beyond that I’m on my own, or piecing together care with colleagues. At least my Cardiologist has stopped recommending that I get a booster.
Love reading Crabjo & love reading all you write , Scott. I’m in mental pain reading your “Cardiologist has finally stopped recommending that {you} get a booster.”
So glad you keep on learning & writing for all!❤️🙏
I agree totally. I am from India, but having followed the Covid experience there closely from the start, through media reports and these podcasts, the insurance centric health care system there baffles me. It is totally unfriendly to patients. On many counts, it could be worse than what we have in the lesser countries like mine. The governments there, both Federal and state, have to take care of the system with a tough hold on the med insurance companies. Doctors, private consulting there etc are another concern for the normal patients. Both quality and affordability are big issues.
If it wasn’t for quality IVM and good Samaritans in India, many more people would have died during the pandemic. As Pierre wrote about in his book The War on Ivermectin, the successful treatment of Covid in Uttar Pradesh was a public health victory that should teach generations to come. Instead, it has been suppressed.
I cannot recall reading of this as a news item in the Indian main stream press in the first half of 2021, when the delta ravage was severe. All the reports were about the burgeoning fresh cases and deaths, overwhelmed hospitals etc. Except in the state of Utter Pradesh, I am not sure if other states of India ( about 30 of them) had followed prophylactic use of IVM. I don’t know if it happened by design or default, when doctors quickly drove into early classical treatments by mid 2021, the cases and hospitalisations and even deaths levelled off swiftly in the second half of 2021. About a dozen repurposed drugs were used in combinations of 3-4, mostly led by Azithromycin, Montelukast, Levocetrizine and sometimes IVM/HCQ. Though this was largely a private doctors initiative ( thousands of then on cue), the govt which was concentrating on AZ vaccinations ( first two doses) slowly accepted this early treatment regimen, with the govt health centres distributing some of these free to poor patients. There was a short burst of Omicron in early 2022, which too was handled similarly with early therapeutics like the ones above. Covid stopped from a being a every day talking point from about mid 2022. Even those who could afford paid out patient treatments didn’t have to spend more than 25-30 dollars including one or two consultations and prescriptions as above, under home care, for a 10 day protocol.
I have mentioned this in other places a number of times, the focus in India began changing around mid 2021, in the midst of a ravaging delta wave. After private doctors found that early treatments and classical medicines held the key, all numbers began dropping steadily - fresh infections, hospitalisations, deaths. The govt. focus was still on vaccination (AZ made locally) through 2021, by the end of which about 85% of the population was double vaccinated. A marathon effort of about 2 billion shots in that year. There was a big Omicron wave, in the very months of 2022, but this was as quickly doused as it struck, with minimum run on hospitals and deaths - by resorting to the early classical treatments honed through the delta wave. For a while, in early 2022, the vaccination continued, but with public disinterest, the govt itself stopped the pursuit, at about 15% population triple vaccinated and I was one among them. Through all this, all kinds of mandates were also loosened. Also governments themselves supported early treatments as I described in another post. By about mid 2022, it was mostly all quiet on the Covid front. It has remained so thus far. So, stopping revaccinations and instituting early classical treatments were the key. It baffles me no end why the USA did not seek out such stories from around the work and kept its head buried in the sand. A good medical success is a world good, must be accepted everywhere in the interests of its people. It did not matter where it came from, as long as it was backed by proven science and proven outcomes.
In the summer of 2022, I did a brief stint with our county health department, making calls to people who had tested positive and counseling re: when and for how long to quarantine at home according to the guidance of the day. In the last week of my employment there, I was in my supervisor’s office twice. Once because a person who I had called reported me for mentioning IVM during our call. No good deed goes unpunished. The second time, on my last day, I was making a presentation to the long-time Medical Director re: the public health victory with IVM in Uttar Pradesh. I had known him for twenty years, and was hoping that our rapport would count for something. It didn’t, and his response to the scientific evidence I presented was a social media hit piece by a Big Pharma contractor. From the local to the national to the international level, most government was working against us.
Wow, every time I hear another testimony of the pure evil and insanity behind the narrative " the only way is to take an experimental jab" and attack anything else, including clear evidence of efficacy, and the super controlled medical boards and their British funded PACS - I am astounded at how many went along to get along and were just willing to look the other way. Sadly, it is a testament of how far south personal ethics and integrity has fallen in the Industry. And I have read 100's if not thousands of stories. I am so thankful to know that you and Dr. Kory and your team have been on the front lines and providing your evidence and experience treating the public.
Speaking of India, any awareness of patient outcomes in that neck of the world? I am curious if Ayurvedic or homeopathic philosophies have been employed?
No good idea of these practices, but they didn’t get mainstream. Remained the preserve of the faithful. There was however a controversy that arose in 2021 between the association of allopathic doctors and a powerful (politically) Ayurvedic group that went into courts and was resolved last year - a fight on the unsubstantiated claims made by it on their covid cure. You may get some details on Google - type “Patanjali covid medicines issue in India.” I wrote my first comment only to highlight the fact that in India too in 2020 and in the early months of 2021 during that horrific delta wave, the official and media reaction was mostly the same as in USA - following only government efforts and skipping other work. Surprisingly the Ivermectin story of Uttar Pradesh was a State government initiative, not getting prominent coverage nationally to develop it into a national prophylactic initiative.
Thank you for writing this deeply profound and ultimately inspiring series. Blessings to you and all at Leading Edge for your integrity, compassion and desire to help those who are suffering.
I appreciate your statement re: not having learned to treat a bio-weapon!
In my opinion, retired CRNA and Attorney who spent nearly 2 years stationed, in the 1970's, literally right across the street from the US Military's Bio-warfare Research Facilities and was acquainted with a couple of the researchers in the, at that time, equivalent of a today's Bio-level 4 Virology Lab.
The mRNA "jabs" were the Bio-weapon, not the C-19 virus!
Hello, i just wanted to let someone know that there is a spelling error in the blue section of the first page of the Leading Edge Clinics website. The word "patent" has been used instead of the word "patient". I'm mentioning this because it might make the entire team and website look unreliable or unprofessional if there's a spelling error in it.
Youre welcome and thannks for your reply! I want the ABSOLUTE BEST for your success and i know sone people can be stickers when it comes to typos and mispellings and i def wouldnt want that to hurt you or them!
And THIS is the life of parents of vaccine injured kids over the past 30+ years. Spending fortunes. Traveling great distances. Hoping for improvement this time with this provider and treatment. I really hope that this covid shot disaster opens peoples eyes to what parents of children have been going through for SO long. THIS is why you've had a very vocal contingent of mainly moms shouting from the rooftops FOR YEARS. I genuinely don't understand what makes people dismiss other people's stories and throw all common sense out the window to accept potentially life altering shots without a second thought. UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM PERSONALLY. Then they become one of those warning others; yet the others don't heed the warning then either. It's madness.
Slowly, thoughtfully reading Turtles All the Way Down over the last weeks has been profoundly shifting my perspective on the last thirty years I have spent in health care. There is the clinical experience I have from treating PASC and injury from the COVID shots since February 2022. There is my own lived experience with vaccine injury. But it is another thing altogether to realize the farce which has been foisted upon us, and the horror of knowing that children across the world continue to receive vaccines which have NEVER been tested against placebo.
I’ve made it through the beginning and the end….The middle seems a detailed course on how they have skirted actual science for quite awhile. No idea as to how to pull it off, but it strikes me that our U.S. Congress needs to outlaw advertising medicines; also outlaw funding FDA & higher education so that actual science returns to being actual science.
One can hope & pray & continue to self educate.❤️🙏
All respect to you guys, but you ignore the treatment elephant in the room, which is specific and accurate treatment for vaxx injury: chlorine dioxide. Best of all, it costs pennies and potentially eliminates provider fees. See https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/280-nasa-said-that-chlorine-dioxide
It’s on my radar, and I appreciate your presentation of resources on your Substack. Colleagues in Italy have used it with good effect for both humans and household pets. Several patients used it prior to seeking our care, which left me with two lasting impressions: 1) it is a treatment which merits careful attention and slow titration, and 2) it didn’t “fix” the patients who used it, which is why they were seeing me.
"I will be the first (maybe the second, because the patients will say this first), to say that not every patient story of treatment with us represents a resounding clinical success. None of us was taught in school how to treat injury from a bio-weapon! What I can also say is that every one of the twenty people who work in our practice cares deeply, has suffered financial losses, has endured persecution for acting on their/our convictions, and is mission-driven. This is not just a job for us. It is a calling." 👍👍👍
I heard a story once: in the making of "the Ham & Eggs Breakfast", the Chicken was "involved", but the Pig was "committed." Maybe hiring "Pigs" results in better outcomes?
Covid has created a whole new branch of medicine that needs to be funded and studied. Unfortunately it has also brought to the forefront all that ails the practice of medicine. Medicine practiced in a model that prioritizes profits overall else will inevitably fail with disastrous outcomes. Unfortunately, I think change will only come when patients demand it and take back their autonomy. The key factors required to improve the situation we find ourselves in is to demand truth, transparency and accountability. Its sad that patients are going from one profit driven scam to another, without anyway of assessing the validity of any of the claims being made. We are now back to the days of witchcraft, voodoo medicine and magical solutions rising out of desperation.
Our health is our most valuable asset and the best investment we can make is to become highly informed and knowledgeable about our medical choices. It would be valuable to have a course to teach patients how to assess the validity and value of a solution being offered. And how to decide if a risk worth taking or an investment worth making. We have a long road ahead and we will only win in this game when prioritize people over profits.
This process of decision making,sorting options, and weighing evidence is on my mind. A pared down guide would indeed be useful to those who would bother using it. The market researchers know more about our decision making habits than we know about ourselves. I think we need to flip that arrangement.
This new category of medicine is SO uncharted and beyond baffling. Chinese medicine has always regarded each presentation and patient as unique, but these cases really push past the limitations of even that open-minded envelope. Scott, Pierre, and the rest of the burgeoning army of medical heretics are ploughing through the darkness with their torch lights of knowledge.
And here is another tune about 'Winning For Losing.'
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Hey Scott, I enjoyed this article as well as some of your other writings on here. I am one of your anonymous patients mentioned, and I agree with almost all of your depiction of my story. I just want to clarify one detail: you said that I was vaccine injured, but I want to clarify that the onset of my symptoms was my first covid infection, which occurred before the vaccines were released. I then proceeded to get vaccinated, and believe they likely made my condition worse. I never felt a strong reaction immediately after the vaccine, but deteriorated over time, so I am open to the idea that the vaccines contributed, and if I had to guess I'd say they did make me worse.
I love the work you guys are doing and appreciate you all. I did just want to clarify that detail of my story and share my perspective on long covid and vaccine injury. These days I prefer to consider it more generally as spike toxicity, and that spike protein whether from an infection or vaccine causes severe immune dysregulation in some of us. I will also add that now, one year later, it's my belief that the covid reinfection I got on my way to Cyprus is most likely what caused my clear relapse one year ago. I don't know to what extent the apheresis treatment may have contributed negatively, but the only times I've had distinct, discrete drops in my baseline and health were my first, second, and third covid infections. So for me personally, it appears that covid infections make me much worse immediately and vaccines added to the bucket of spike and caused me to deteriorate over the long term. I respect that this is different for each individual, which again is why I like to take a broader view of infections and vaccines as just spike. Thank you for allowing me to share my story, and for the good work that you and your colleagues at Leading Edge do.
Thanks for always being open to discussion Scott. One more important input from me: I just re-read the section and noticed you referred to Markus at Dr. Markus Klotz. That guy is in no way a doctor, not even a PhD or doctor of anything! He is not a medical professional of any kind. He is a business owner, former long covid patient, and self proclaimed "data scientist," although you described very well my critique of his definition of "data."
That guy needs to be put in his place. I cannot tell you how many people I've talked to after getting apheresis that also had terrible experiences. Unfortunately you can't find this in their facebook group, which is highly censored and moderated by apheresis center employees. I tried to post a very tame, factual description of my results from the procedure and the moderators ignored the request to post until it timed out. I then re-posted with an even more positive tone toward them and pestered them with messages and they allowed the post, but deleted all the comments and engagement immediately, then blamed it on a glitch by facebook. Bad news all around.
Thank you for sharing the difficult journey many patients have traveled in their search for a return to health. I appreciate your thoughts on accepting some conditions that may not be changed and moving on. Your work is important and a learning curve for you as you find new methods for treating the injured. Thank you for taking on this difficult work.
Scott - Pierre linked my substack, Clotastrophe in one of his stacks a couple of months ago. I work with Tom Haviland and Richard Hirschman. You may be aware of them - they were featured on the FLCCC’s webinar a few months ago.
Thank you for the info. The IVBI treatment sounded interesting and perhaps something good to add to your arsenal or to work with as a collaborator with AMD or others who might want to give it a go.
P.S. I'm not a medical person. I'm inquiring only as a curious lay reader who wants this scourge of suffering to reverse course.
We may in the future, but accessibility and cost (or affordability) are key considerations for most patients. Some treatments are sexy, and hold promise, but we tend to focus on what works and can be implemented on a wider scale.
That is critical as Dr. John Ott said: "No one in science has made a major breakthrough in science by conducting double-blind studies. Breakthroughs are made by careful observation." International Journal of Biosocial Medical Research Vol. 12, 1990.
You have to observe and learn, something missing for the last four years. Good luck.
I am currently reading: "Into the Light", by Dr. William Campbell Douglas. It is a fascinating read as he documents his worldwide experience in treating with Ultraviolet Light. This is an edited review by ChatGPT:
Into the Light by Dr. William Campbell Douglass II is a controversial and thought-provoking book that advocates for the use of light therapy, specifically ultraviolet (UV) light, in medical treatment. Douglass, a physician known for challenging mainstream medical perspectives, offers a passionate argument for the therapeutic benefits of light, which he claims have been ignored or suppressed by conventional medicine.
Key Themes of the Book:
Historical and Scientific Background:
Douglass delves into the history of light therapy, or heliotherapy, discussing its early 20th-century use to treat a range of ailments, including tuberculosis and skin diseases. He emphasizes the work of pioneers like Niels Ryberg Finsen, who won the Nobel Prize in 1903 for using light therapy to treat skin infections.
The book highlights the scientific basis for the use of UV light in activating the body’s healing mechanisms. Douglass claims that UV light can help improve blood circulation, boost the immune system, and increase the production of vitamin D, which he links to overall health improvement.
Criticism of Mainstream Medicine:
A major theme throughout Into the Light is Douglass’s criticism of the medical establishment. He argues that the benefits of light therapy have been sidelined due to the dominance of pharmaceutical companies and profit-driven medical practices. Douglass asserts that doctors are too reliant on drugs and invasive procedures while ignoring simpler, natural therapies like light exposure.
He accuses the medical industry of suppressing information about the effectiveness of UV light therapy to protect their financial interests. This part of the book has been both praised by those skeptical of mainstream medicine and criticized by those who see it as promoting conspiracy theories.
Health Benefits of UV Light:
Douglass presents a series of case studies and anecdotal evidence to support his claims that UV light therapy can treat a variety of conditions, including:
Infectious diseases: He suggests that UV light can kill viruses and bacteria, potentially aiding in the treatment of illnesses like pneumonia, hepatitis, and even HIV.
Chronic diseases: He advocates for light therapy in the treatment of conditions like arthritis, hypertension, and cardiovascular disease.
Overall vitality: Douglass argues that regular, controlled exposure to sunlight or artificial UV light can improve mental health, reduce stress, and increase energy levels.
Perhaps this could be a treatment for Disease X as the book gives case studies for all known virus and bacterial infections before antibiotics became popular.
I did try IVB with ozone less than a dozen times prior to finding Leading Edge. My personal experience was that I think it helped, I don't feel it did any harm but it was cost prohibitive for me to continue. I'm extremely grateful to all at Leading Edge especially the thoroughness of Scott's guidance and recommendations. I've made more progress in trying to get my life back since finding Leading Edge than anything else I have tried and will hopefully continue to get better in this unchartered territory.
This is great info, Pam! So glad Leading Edge is helping you. It’s nice to have such excellent feedback from someone with first-hand experience going through this ordeal.
I so wish you future health as you continue to recover with help from Leading Edge Clinic.
When you combine the disillusionment with the insurance-based, allopathic medical systems with the uncharted waters of treating spikeopathy, it seems like pursuing healthcare in America has become our new Wild West. Clearly, a change has needed to happen for a long time, but having been conditioned to a more structured approach, it feels like we’re all flying by the seat of our pants for the time being and throwing lots of medical spaghetti against the wall. I’ve changed PCPs 3 times in 3 years in a quest to find one that isn’t bound to a large corporation, doesn’t require masks in the treatment room, and doesn’t reflexively write unnecessary prescriptions. If wish the option for catastrophic-only coverage was available in my state, so I could switch to direct primary care without feeling like I was paying double. Thank you as always for your candor about your experiences. With truth and honesty so hard to come by these days (especially in journalism), it’s very comforting to have resources where they give it to you straight.
I always appreciate your thoughts, and your writing Crabjo. My relationships with my PCP and Cardiologist go back twenty five years, and I stick with them because this is a small town and they are good people. But there is always an element of The Twilight Zone to our visits, and I understand that I can only benefit from their experience to a point. Beyond that I’m on my own, or piecing together care with colleagues. At least my Cardiologist has stopped recommending that I get a booster.
Love reading Crabjo & love reading all you write , Scott. I’m in mental pain reading your “Cardiologist has finally stopped recommending that {you} get a booster.”
So glad you keep on learning & writing for all!❤️🙏
I agree totally. I am from India, but having followed the Covid experience there closely from the start, through media reports and these podcasts, the insurance centric health care system there baffles me. It is totally unfriendly to patients. On many counts, it could be worse than what we have in the lesser countries like mine. The governments there, both Federal and state, have to take care of the system with a tough hold on the med insurance companies. Doctors, private consulting there etc are another concern for the normal patients. Both quality and affordability are big issues.
If it wasn’t for quality IVM and good Samaritans in India, many more people would have died during the pandemic. As Pierre wrote about in his book The War on Ivermectin, the successful treatment of Covid in Uttar Pradesh was a public health victory that should teach generations to come. Instead, it has been suppressed.
I cannot recall reading of this as a news item in the Indian main stream press in the first half of 2021, when the delta ravage was severe. All the reports were about the burgeoning fresh cases and deaths, overwhelmed hospitals etc. Except in the state of Utter Pradesh, I am not sure if other states of India ( about 30 of them) had followed prophylactic use of IVM. I don’t know if it happened by design or default, when doctors quickly drove into early classical treatments by mid 2021, the cases and hospitalisations and even deaths levelled off swiftly in the second half of 2021. About a dozen repurposed drugs were used in combinations of 3-4, mostly led by Azithromycin, Montelukast, Levocetrizine and sometimes IVM/HCQ. Though this was largely a private doctors initiative ( thousands of then on cue), the govt which was concentrating on AZ vaccinations ( first two doses) slowly accepted this early treatment regimen, with the govt health centres distributing some of these free to poor patients. There was a short burst of Omicron in early 2022, which too was handled similarly with early therapeutics like the ones above. Covid stopped from a being a every day talking point from about mid 2022. Even those who could afford paid out patient treatments didn’t have to spend more than 25-30 dollars including one or two consultations and prescriptions as above, under home care, for a 10 day protocol.
I have mentioned this in other places a number of times, the focus in India began changing around mid 2021, in the midst of a ravaging delta wave. After private doctors found that early treatments and classical medicines held the key, all numbers began dropping steadily - fresh infections, hospitalisations, deaths. The govt. focus was still on vaccination (AZ made locally) through 2021, by the end of which about 85% of the population was double vaccinated. A marathon effort of about 2 billion shots in that year. There was a big Omicron wave, in the very months of 2022, but this was as quickly doused as it struck, with minimum run on hospitals and deaths - by resorting to the early classical treatments honed through the delta wave. For a while, in early 2022, the vaccination continued, but with public disinterest, the govt itself stopped the pursuit, at about 15% population triple vaccinated and I was one among them. Through all this, all kinds of mandates were also loosened. Also governments themselves supported early treatments as I described in another post. By about mid 2022, it was mostly all quiet on the Covid front. It has remained so thus far. So, stopping revaccinations and instituting early classical treatments were the key. It baffles me no end why the USA did not seek out such stories from around the work and kept its head buried in the sand. A good medical success is a world good, must be accepted everywhere in the interests of its people. It did not matter where it came from, as long as it was backed by proven science and proven outcomes.
In the summer of 2022, I did a brief stint with our county health department, making calls to people who had tested positive and counseling re: when and for how long to quarantine at home according to the guidance of the day. In the last week of my employment there, I was in my supervisor’s office twice. Once because a person who I had called reported me for mentioning IVM during our call. No good deed goes unpunished. The second time, on my last day, I was making a presentation to the long-time Medical Director re: the public health victory with IVM in Uttar Pradesh. I had known him for twenty years, and was hoping that our rapport would count for something. It didn’t, and his response to the scientific evidence I presented was a social media hit piece by a Big Pharma contractor. From the local to the national to the international level, most government was working against us.
Wow, every time I hear another testimony of the pure evil and insanity behind the narrative " the only way is to take an experimental jab" and attack anything else, including clear evidence of efficacy, and the super controlled medical boards and their British funded PACS - I am astounded at how many went along to get along and were just willing to look the other way. Sadly, it is a testament of how far south personal ethics and integrity has fallen in the Industry. And I have read 100's if not thousands of stories. I am so thankful to know that you and Dr. Kory and your team have been on the front lines and providing your evidence and experience treating the public.
that of course was lack of efficacy.
Speaking of India, any awareness of patient outcomes in that neck of the world? I am curious if Ayurvedic or homeopathic philosophies have been employed?
Thanks!
No good idea of these practices, but they didn’t get mainstream. Remained the preserve of the faithful. There was however a controversy that arose in 2021 between the association of allopathic doctors and a powerful (politically) Ayurvedic group that went into courts and was resolved last year - a fight on the unsubstantiated claims made by it on their covid cure. You may get some details on Google - type “Patanjali covid medicines issue in India.” I wrote my first comment only to highlight the fact that in India too in 2020 and in the early months of 2021 during that horrific delta wave, the official and media reaction was mostly the same as in USA - following only government efforts and skipping other work. Surprisingly the Ivermectin story of Uttar Pradesh was a State government initiative, not getting prominent coverage nationally to develop it into a national prophylactic initiative.
See my reply, above.
What you describe is evidently by design. I just stumbled on this today.:
Scroll down to page 7 or so to this, LIMITING ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE MEDICAL CARE MAKES ELIMINATING THE ELDERLY EASIER
After that very brief section here are some other relevant sections.:
PLANNING THE CONTROL OVER MEDICINE
ELIMINATION OF PRIVATE DOCTORS
NEW DIFFICULT TO DIAGNOSE AND UNTREATABLE DISEASES
From a transcript of a speech given in 1969. Dr Lawrence Dunegan: The New Order Of The Barbarians
by Lawrence Dunegan
https://archive.org/details/dunegan-lawrence-the-new-order-of-the-barbarians/page/n7/mode/1up
Thank you for writing this deeply profound and ultimately inspiring series. Blessings to you and all at Leading Edge for your integrity, compassion and desire to help those who are suffering.
Scott,
A very informative article.
I appreciate your statement re: not having learned to treat a bio-weapon!
In my opinion, retired CRNA and Attorney who spent nearly 2 years stationed, in the 1970's, literally right across the street from the US Military's Bio-warfare Research Facilities and was acquainted with a couple of the researchers in the, at that time, equivalent of a today's Bio-level 4 Virology Lab.
The mRNA "jabs" were the Bio-weapon, not the C-19 virus!
Keep up your good work.
Current Leading Edge patient here. Fighting for my health since 3/17/21
Just want to say, thank you to the whole team. It's nice to get a look under the hood.
Keep up the good work. And the human touch.
Hello, i just wanted to let someone know that there is a spelling error in the blue section of the first page of the Leading Edge Clinics website. The word "patent" has been used instead of the word "patient". I'm mentioning this because it might make the entire team and website look unreliable or unprofessional if there's a spelling error in it.
Thank you inner dimensions.
Youre welcome and thannks for your reply! I want the ABSOLUTE BEST for your success and i know sone people can be stickers when it comes to typos and mispellings and i def wouldnt want that to hurt you or them!
And THIS is the life of parents of vaccine injured kids over the past 30+ years. Spending fortunes. Traveling great distances. Hoping for improvement this time with this provider and treatment. I really hope that this covid shot disaster opens peoples eyes to what parents of children have been going through for SO long. THIS is why you've had a very vocal contingent of mainly moms shouting from the rooftops FOR YEARS. I genuinely don't understand what makes people dismiss other people's stories and throw all common sense out the window to accept potentially life altering shots without a second thought. UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM PERSONALLY. Then they become one of those warning others; yet the others don't heed the warning then either. It's madness.
Slowly, thoughtfully reading Turtles All the Way Down over the last weeks has been profoundly shifting my perspective on the last thirty years I have spent in health care. There is the clinical experience I have from treating PASC and injury from the COVID shots since February 2022. There is my own lived experience with vaccine injury. But it is another thing altogether to realize the farce which has been foisted upon us, and the horror of knowing that children across the world continue to receive vaccines which have NEVER been tested against placebo.
I’ve made it through the beginning and the end….The middle seems a detailed course on how they have skirted actual science for quite awhile. No idea as to how to pull it off, but it strikes me that our U.S. Congress needs to outlaw advertising medicines; also outlaw funding FDA & higher education so that actual science returns to being actual science.
One can hope & pray & continue to self educate.❤️🙏
All respect to you guys, but you ignore the treatment elephant in the room, which is specific and accurate treatment for vaxx injury: chlorine dioxide. Best of all, it costs pennies and potentially eliminates provider fees. See https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/280-nasa-said-that-chlorine-dioxide
and search my archives for "chlorine dioxide" at robertyoho.substack.com.
It’s on my radar, and I appreciate your presentation of resources on your Substack. Colleagues in Italy have used it with good effect for both humans and household pets. Several patients used it prior to seeking our care, which left me with two lasting impressions: 1) it is a treatment which merits careful attention and slow titration, and 2) it didn’t “fix” the patients who used it, which is why they were seeing me.
"I will be the first (maybe the second, because the patients will say this first), to say that not every patient story of treatment with us represents a resounding clinical success. None of us was taught in school how to treat injury from a bio-weapon! What I can also say is that every one of the twenty people who work in our practice cares deeply, has suffered financial losses, has endured persecution for acting on their/our convictions, and is mission-driven. This is not just a job for us. It is a calling." 👍👍👍
I heard a story once: in the making of "the Ham & Eggs Breakfast", the Chicken was "involved", but the Pig was "committed." Maybe hiring "Pigs" results in better outcomes?
We’ll put!
Covid has created a whole new branch of medicine that needs to be funded and studied. Unfortunately it has also brought to the forefront all that ails the practice of medicine. Medicine practiced in a model that prioritizes profits overall else will inevitably fail with disastrous outcomes. Unfortunately, I think change will only come when patients demand it and take back their autonomy. The key factors required to improve the situation we find ourselves in is to demand truth, transparency and accountability. Its sad that patients are going from one profit driven scam to another, without anyway of assessing the validity of any of the claims being made. We are now back to the days of witchcraft, voodoo medicine and magical solutions rising out of desperation.
Our health is our most valuable asset and the best investment we can make is to become highly informed and knowledgeable about our medical choices. It would be valuable to have a course to teach patients how to assess the validity and value of a solution being offered. And how to decide if a risk worth taking or an investment worth making. We have a long road ahead and we will only win in this game when prioritize people over profits.
This process of decision making,sorting options, and weighing evidence is on my mind. A pared down guide would indeed be useful to those who would bother using it. The market researchers know more about our decision making habits than we know about ourselves. I think we need to flip that arrangement.
Reclaimingmed.org is an organization making an attempt at this by building trusted partnerships between patients and physicians based on truth.
Maybe we can work together to create a pathway which allows patients to be active participants in their care, and make fully informed decisions.
Thank You, Scott. I have read that with interest.
This new category of medicine is SO uncharted and beyond baffling. Chinese medicine has always regarded each presentation and patient as unique, but these cases really push past the limitations of even that open-minded envelope. Scott, Pierre, and the rest of the burgeoning army of medical heretics are ploughing through the darkness with their torch lights of knowledge.
And here is another tune about 'Winning For Losing.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTTC_fD598A
Hey Scott, I enjoyed this article as well as some of your other writings on here. I am one of your anonymous patients mentioned, and I agree with almost all of your depiction of my story. I just want to clarify one detail: you said that I was vaccine injured, but I want to clarify that the onset of my symptoms was my first covid infection, which occurred before the vaccines were released. I then proceeded to get vaccinated, and believe they likely made my condition worse. I never felt a strong reaction immediately after the vaccine, but deteriorated over time, so I am open to the idea that the vaccines contributed, and if I had to guess I'd say they did make me worse.
I love the work you guys are doing and appreciate you all. I did just want to clarify that detail of my story and share my perspective on long covid and vaccine injury. These days I prefer to consider it more generally as spike toxicity, and that spike protein whether from an infection or vaccine causes severe immune dysregulation in some of us. I will also add that now, one year later, it's my belief that the covid reinfection I got on my way to Cyprus is most likely what caused my clear relapse one year ago. I don't know to what extent the apheresis treatment may have contributed negatively, but the only times I've had distinct, discrete drops in my baseline and health were my first, second, and third covid infections. So for me personally, it appears that covid infections make me much worse immediately and vaccines added to the bucket of spike and caused me to deteriorate over the long term. I respect that this is different for each individual, which again is why I like to take a broader view of infections and vaccines as just spike. Thank you for allowing me to share my story, and for the good work that you and your colleagues at Leading Edge do.
Thanks for always being open to discussion Scott. One more important input from me: I just re-read the section and noticed you referred to Markus at Dr. Markus Klotz. That guy is in no way a doctor, not even a PhD or doctor of anything! He is not a medical professional of any kind. He is a business owner, former long covid patient, and self proclaimed "data scientist," although you described very well my critique of his definition of "data."
That guy needs to be put in his place. I cannot tell you how many people I've talked to after getting apheresis that also had terrible experiences. Unfortunately you can't find this in their facebook group, which is highly censored and moderated by apheresis center employees. I tried to post a very tame, factual description of my results from the procedure and the moderators ignored the request to post until it timed out. I then re-posted with an even more positive tone toward them and pestered them with messages and they allowed the post, but deleted all the comments and engagement immediately, then blamed it on a glitch by facebook. Bad news all around.
Thank you for sharing the difficult journey many patients have traveled in their search for a return to health. I appreciate your thoughts on accepting some conditions that may not be changed and moving on. Your work is important and a learning curve for you as you find new methods for treating the injured. Thank you for taking on this difficult work.
Scott - Pierre linked my substack, Clotastrophe in one of his stacks a couple of months ago. I work with Tom Haviland and Richard Hirschman. You may be aware of them - they were featured on the FLCCC’s webinar a few months ago.
You may find my latest post interesting.
https://laurakasner.substack.com/p/how-the-white-clots-are-formed
Thank you Laura.
Have you ever used IV blood irradiation (IVBI) treatment for your patients? If so, has it helped? I read about in A Midwestern Doctor’s Substack https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-evidence-putting-light-inside
AMD has discussed this often with Pierre, and related his success with it, but we have not used it.
Thank you for the info. The IVBI treatment sounded interesting and perhaps something good to add to your arsenal or to work with as a collaborator with AMD or others who might want to give it a go.
P.S. I'm not a medical person. I'm inquiring only as a curious lay reader who wants this scourge of suffering to reverse course.
We may in the future, but accessibility and cost (or affordability) are key considerations for most patients. Some treatments are sexy, and hold promise, but we tend to focus on what works and can be implemented on a wider scale.
That is critical as Dr. John Ott said: "No one in science has made a major breakthrough in science by conducting double-blind studies. Breakthroughs are made by careful observation." International Journal of Biosocial Medical Research Vol. 12, 1990.
You have to observe and learn, something missing for the last four years. Good luck.
Makes sense.
I am currently reading: "Into the Light", by Dr. William Campbell Douglas. It is a fascinating read as he documents his worldwide experience in treating with Ultraviolet Light. This is an edited review by ChatGPT:
Into the Light by Dr. William Campbell Douglass II is a controversial and thought-provoking book that advocates for the use of light therapy, specifically ultraviolet (UV) light, in medical treatment. Douglass, a physician known for challenging mainstream medical perspectives, offers a passionate argument for the therapeutic benefits of light, which he claims have been ignored or suppressed by conventional medicine.
Key Themes of the Book:
Historical and Scientific Background:
Douglass delves into the history of light therapy, or heliotherapy, discussing its early 20th-century use to treat a range of ailments, including tuberculosis and skin diseases. He emphasizes the work of pioneers like Niels Ryberg Finsen, who won the Nobel Prize in 1903 for using light therapy to treat skin infections.
The book highlights the scientific basis for the use of UV light in activating the body’s healing mechanisms. Douglass claims that UV light can help improve blood circulation, boost the immune system, and increase the production of vitamin D, which he links to overall health improvement.
Criticism of Mainstream Medicine:
A major theme throughout Into the Light is Douglass’s criticism of the medical establishment. He argues that the benefits of light therapy have been sidelined due to the dominance of pharmaceutical companies and profit-driven medical practices. Douglass asserts that doctors are too reliant on drugs and invasive procedures while ignoring simpler, natural therapies like light exposure.
He accuses the medical industry of suppressing information about the effectiveness of UV light therapy to protect their financial interests. This part of the book has been both praised by those skeptical of mainstream medicine and criticized by those who see it as promoting conspiracy theories.
Health Benefits of UV Light:
Douglass presents a series of case studies and anecdotal evidence to support his claims that UV light therapy can treat a variety of conditions, including:
Infectious diseases: He suggests that UV light can kill viruses and bacteria, potentially aiding in the treatment of illnesses like pneumonia, hepatitis, and even HIV.
Chronic diseases: He advocates for light therapy in the treatment of conditions like arthritis, hypertension, and cardiovascular disease.
Overall vitality: Douglass argues that regular, controlled exposure to sunlight or artificial UV light can improve mental health, reduce stress, and increase energy levels.
Perhaps this could be a treatment for Disease X as the book gives case studies for all known virus and bacterial infections before antibiotics became popular.
I did try IVB with ozone less than a dozen times prior to finding Leading Edge. My personal experience was that I think it helped, I don't feel it did any harm but it was cost prohibitive for me to continue. I'm extremely grateful to all at Leading Edge especially the thoroughness of Scott's guidance and recommendations. I've made more progress in trying to get my life back since finding Leading Edge than anything else I have tried and will hopefully continue to get better in this unchartered territory.
This is great info, Pam! So glad Leading Edge is helping you. It’s nice to have such excellent feedback from someone with first-hand experience going through this ordeal.
I so wish you future health as you continue to recover with help from Leading Edge Clinic.
P.S. Yours would be good feedback to post on A Midwestern Doctor’s Substack too: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-evidence-putting-light-inside
Will do. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.