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Hi Judy and Michelle,

Thank you both for reading and your lengthy comments. I think that history is important. Cochrane served up robust meta-analyses for years, and helped guide many clinical decisions for the better. 2015 was nine years and in some ways, a galaxy away from the present moment. When Cochrane crossed over to the dark side, from which it maligned IVM, is a matter of debate. And so, a 2015 review of Laetrile in which it didn't even meet inclusion criteria, should not be dismissed out of hand. In his protocol, Dr Marik offers a more robust discussion of the controversial history and risks of Laetrile.

Comparison of IVM and Laetrile, is, well, like comparing an Olympian with a toddler. By this point there may be more than 100 studies showing IVM's clinical efficacy against all things COVID. The evidence for Laetrile is tenuous by comparison. But more importantly, there is the safey profile of IVM. A French company commissioned the esteemed French Toxicologist, Dr Jacque Descotes, to perform a literature search on the safety of IVM. With 357 references, and after >4 billion doses over 40 years, he not only found it exceedingly safe, but even questioned the validity of the minscule number of deaths attributed to its use. As of the most recent iteration of Dr Marik's protocol, we have seventeen therapeutic choices with strong evidence and safety profiles. Most of them are very inexpensive. Given that there is no magic bullet, we have so many options, and we are using layered therapy, what reason is there to choose a lower-tier therapy with uncertain safety such as Laetrile?

In several Substacks I have written about how clinical expertise had an expiration date, somewhere around November of 2019, and clinicians who didn't update their knowledge re: spikopathy are missing a huge component of diagnosis and treatment. If Laetrile had clinical benefit before COVID, that benefit is likely to be less now, specifically because the mitochondria of the human population took a huge hit. Therapies such as the Arc Microtech have helped so many patients, particularly because of their restorative effect on mitochondria. With the insight that cancer is a metabolic rather than genetic disease, and that the central issue is defective mitochondria, this topic becomes very weighty. A therapy which could further undermine the electron transport chain is less than ideal, and that is precisely what cyanide does. If that effect is marginal, why be so concerned? This makes me think of a large study of Eastern Indian vegetarians and Pakistani meat-eaters, which compared the two available forms of Vitamin B-12, methylcobalamin and cyanocobalamin. Methylcobalamin's benefit was far superior, and the marginal concern about a cyanide molecule included within Cyanocobalamin turned out to have an impact.

You and I spoke re: Fenbendazole at the last FLCCC Conference. At the Leading Edge Clinic, we rely upon our trusted colleagues at Vitahealth Apothecary in NYC, who sit directly across the street from Sloan Kettering. Their experience has been that patients who have used Fenbendazole may get good clinical benefit initially, but if their cancer returns, it rip-roars through their body and nothing can stop it. That isn't a study; it's just expert opinion based upon extensive clinical experience over the last nineteen years. So, if we have a choice between Mebendazole with Polymorph C and Fenbendazole, I'll choose and recommend Mebendazole.

Thankfully, science is not yet dead. It is thrilling to be part of this five year study of how a keto diet and repurposed therapeutics can be used as adjunctive therapy for cancer. And, it's a huge undertaking. Other clinicians and their patients are free to organize studies using other therapetuics, including Laetrile. I assume, or at least hope, that there will be a robust informed consent discussion of evidence and safety, which should always include alternatives to the treatment offered.

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts Hilary. You underestimate my familiarity with Dr Makis, and overstate my language and words by characterizing them as unkind or disrespectful. There can be honorable disagreement among clinicians. In honoring my oath to do no harm, I find it necessary to speak up and counter one of his assertions. He garners my attention and mention because our patients, staff and clinicians read him on X, and want to try his suggestions, so we have to explain to them why we don't think that Laetrile is safe or evidence-based.

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Fair point, Scott. Since your comments about him are based on more extensive knowledge and experience than I assumed I’ll reserve judgment. I certainly understand and appreciate your commitment to speaking up. Maybe you and Dr.Makis have engaged in honorable discussion. We sure need more of that among practitioners who care. Many blessings, Scott.

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Laetrile isn't part of ANY of my protocols, why do you feel the need to lie?

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See my reply above

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Scott, thus far, can you report on any cases where a patient following Dr Marik’s “guidelines has shown remission or progress. I’ve been following the work of the FLCCC and looking for more stories along the lines of those mentioned by Dr Ruddy at the FLCCC Conference.

By the way, also following work of Dr Malik; I too believe he’s one of the good guys.

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Hi Terry,

There has been a range of responses. We have had some patient deaths, as they came to us late, some modest responses, and numerous impressive improvements with dramatically reduced tumor burden. Pierre and I are going to be conservative in reporting our cases, and have not yet decided to share results.

We note that many clinicians will rave about their successes, and not tell you about their failures. We will

share our entire range of experiences.

Peace,

Scott

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Thanks Scott. Honest medicine and honest research is really what we need. Enjoying your podcasts btw!

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Scott, my brother-in-law was just diagnosed with MDS. I’m just curious if you’ve seen this at your clinic and if so, have you been able to associate it with Covid-19 or the mRNA shots. It’s affecting his RBC count but presented as an iron issue originally. I hate to bother you but figure if there is any link you likely have seen it. Thank you.

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I'm not sure who Agent 131711 is, but I know what I see with my own eyes and brain. We follow the Calcium and PTH levels, and hypercaclcemia has not been an issue. Dr Coimbra in Brazil has cured MS and is treating other progressive neurologic diseases with high dose Vitamin D3. Important considerations are thirty minutes of weight-bearing exercise daily, 250-500mg of Mg daily, and limited dairy intake. As Dr Marik discusses, low Vitamin D levels are noted a large percentage of patients with a new cancer diagnosis.

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My UK partner and I have been in Istanbul since October 2020 getting cancer treatment from the Chemothermia clinic after diagnosis by the National Health Service in London in September of that year. He had lost all faith in the NHS being capable of safely treating his prostate cancer which had spread to his bones. After research online and finding Thomas Seyfried's work, we contacted him and found out about Chemothermia clinic which follows his metabolic approach to cancer treatment.

My partner's cancer has been "sleeping" for about three years now. He follows a strict ketogenic diet, takes several repurposed drugs and supplements, gets 5 days of treatments every 4 months at Chemothermia​ that includes low-dose chemo, whole body heat, localized heat, hyperbaric oxygen, and various IV supplements and meds. He also has learned to meditate, does yoga, Pilates, calisthenics, and swimming. The doctor who runs the clinic here also suggested early on that addressing any blockages to healing and recovery due to emotional issues was vital to the process. My partner worked hard to do that and continues to be as self-aware as possible about any blockages to good health but mostly focuses on pro-action to achieve a steady, healthy equilibrium.

People come from all over the world for treatment at Chemothermia​ clinic. Many people come as a last resort but it is better to come early after diagnosis so that the patient is still relatively strong and not depilated by standard protocol chemo and radiation treatments.

I was thrilled when I saw that Dr Marik, who is a hero of mine, published his cancer care protocol. It's amazing and wonderful that your Leading Edge clinic is working to help patients with this protocol.

Well done!!! Great work!!! Thank you!!!

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Thank you for sharing your story.

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Thank you for this article. My husband was diagnosed with glioblastoma (terminal brain cancer) in 2017 and is still here, over 7 years later, which we really credit to adjunctive care. He has followed a modified keto diet since diagnosis, along with repurposed drugs, supplements, hyperbaric oxygen treatment, etc. We have experienced lots of pushback from doctors, especially when he was on chemo in 2017/18. I’m grateful there seems to be a growing awareness in the cancer community about these approaches, even if it does feel slow-moving. Thank you for your work here.

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What repurposed drugs and supplements dosages do you use please. And other treatments please? Really would desire to have your excellent knowledge and much research to know what to take?? Thank you very much for your very enlightening comment!!

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As referenced in the article, we are creating plans of care based upon Dr Marik’s research. You can buy it on Amazon.

https://a.co/d/cISb7TJ

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We really are living in a time of great change. Mom died of cancer (treatment) 10 years ago. If I knew then what I know now - she might be alive today.

Even if there isn't widespread agreement (call it: "protocol lock step"), we are still in a much better place than we were just four years ago.

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Amen brother. I think the same re: my father, who died at the young age of 58 years from renal cell cancer in 2000.

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Perhaps quite a bit of what we know today even as curious scientific minded readers was existent 10 years ago, but largely without dissemination. Today much better tools are available for sharing knowledge, information and experience thanks to podcasts like these. But the real doubt and concern is that most of the everyday doctors , why even oncologists, do not seem to be paying attention to this trail of knowledge sharing. In protocols and treatment plans, they continue to toe the lines of big pharma and the days of universal integrated approach to cancer is still a long long way. Governments around the world can break this kind of stranglehold on the poor patients, but we don’t see that happening. For cancer patients and their families, life is a toss up between hope and despair. Only organisations like the FLCCC can make a beginning to get an international movement underway.

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What a thoughtful comment Moro. Thank you for this. In my first year of practice as an FNP-C, my collaborating physician, Dr Muhammad Wattoo, said “Scotty, pay attention. You’ll notice that once physicians get out of their residency, they stop learning to a great degree. No one criticizes them or gives them feedback about whether or not what they are doing is working.” Aside from exceptional physicians such as my partner Pierre, I have found that Wattoo was mostly correct. In more than twenty five conversations I have had with Interventional Radiologists and Vascular Surgeons across the US, trying to teach them about how to diagnose and treat iliac venous compression under the influence of spikopathy, I have still only found three that could engage, and one that could act. This is part of what I value about being an FNP-C, coming into this role through the school of hard knocks. I’m humble enough to know my limitations, curious enough to ask questions, and brave enough to step up and speak out.

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I agree that doctors are among the least likely to seek out new learning. Their work is often by clinical guidelines, which leaves room for creative thinking.

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I, like Michelle Herman, am wondering how The Cochrane review of IVM that we all know was false information suddenly makes a Cochrane review relevant when it comes to something like Laetrile. From everything I have researched, Fauci and company suppressed the ability of AIDS patients to obtain Laetrile to treat their Kaposi's Sarcoma, just like they suppress IVM and anything else that actually works. Couldn't have anyone finding out that there are other things that could cure cancer. In all my research I have never seen any issue with the level of cyanide either.

https://www.cancerdefeated.com/the-most-hated-natural-cancer-treatment-in-america-really-works

Don't get me wrong. I love you guys, the FLCCC, and all the work you do at The Leading Edge Clinic. My husband and I have been supporters and avid promoters of the FLCCC and we have attended all three of the FLCCC medical conferences. I know you pretty much have to stick to approved medications in the observational cancer studies but honestly I think there has been a lot more usage of fenbendazole and a lot of anecdotal reports of cures than there are of IVM and mebendazole. Part of that is likely because it is easier to obtain and because of the Joe Tippens story. I think combination approaches of several things along with supplements and diet are the way to go. Have a couple of friends currently treating their own colon cancer and NSCLC (lung cancer) with IVM, fenben and vitamin supplements. Still in the middle of it but very promising results so far.

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Thanks for the support Judy! I'm eternally grateful and impressed with the work of the FLCCC docs, they have done a tremendous job regarding covid. The conferences are amazing and the openness of the attendee docs is highly promising and encouraging! It has got to be very difficult to abandon the "symptom? -->Rx, more symptoms?? -->-->-->more Rx" type of 'lather, rinse, repeat' indoctrination that these folks have lived for their entire professional career. These drugs have not only caused addiction in patients.. but also apparently in the doctor population - they just can't stop prescribing them! I'm sure because they struggle to really believe that alternatives work... they have been trained for decades to believe that only Pharma drugs work, the rest is quackery.

We are confident that they will come around... but in the mean time, patients must continue to educate themselves and push their own doctors...

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A general FYI to readers and writers. If you try using this forum to market your products, or you enjoy writing so many posts that the only name we see is yours, I’m going to block you. Moderation is appreciated.

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All of Scott's substacks are incredibly informative, reflective, and so vitally important in the present age of mass propaganda. However, the single most disturbing fact I read in this week's post:

White Castle still exists!!

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Thank you. You'r so good. Appreciating all the work you and the Leading Edge Clinic do. If we are not here for each other than what are we doing? Blessings to you and your family.

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I really appreciate your contributions to the conversation about post-COVID, post-vaccine health, Scott, but I don't see the need to single out a doctor for criticism like you have with Dr. Makis. Dr. Makis is an oncologist and therefore highly qualified to discuss cancer treatment. I strongly recommend you watch Parts 1 and 2 of interviews he did with Dr. Ahmad Malik, another beacon of integrity in all of this medical mess. https://substack.com/home/post/p-145910916 Dr. Makis has been in the business of treating cancer for much longer than you folks at FLCCC and he has paid a very high price for speaking out and fighting governmental interference in human health , notably fighting vaccine mandates in Canada. Rather than rely on X posts I would encourage you to better acquaint yourself with Dr. Makis.

I agree with another reader that one significant thing we have learned through the 'pandemic' is that many of the institutions we used to rely on for scientific truth have been compromised, like the Cochrane review. All of us dealing with cancer deserve to know about anything that might be helpful and then we can sort through the info and collaborate with a trusted physician to come up with a plan of care.....or, like me, eschew the 'help' of traditional cancer treatment and instead rely on my own research to chart my own course to achieve healing. I am a financial contributor and huge fan of the FLCCC, Dr. Kory and Dr. Marik. I bought Dr. Marik's first guide to Cancer Care and he has already made significant changes, i.e., Ivermectin was originally not given favorable reviews (I don't have my copy with me at the moment, so I can't say exactly where he listed IVM) but now, low and behold Ivermectin is the focus of a new observational study.

I think we need to show kindness and respect for others who are trying to find solutions to the health crisis we are engulfed in.

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A close friend of mine was taking Chemo (pills) and also on her own doing Keto and Fenbendazole. The colon and liver tumors shrunk to almost nothing and wowed the cancer doctors. Then they did radiation on the liver and removed part of her colon that was "thin". So the tumors came back with a vengeance after the radiation and the stoma bag has left her depressed,,,it's a messy thing. The stoma makes her not want to fight anymore. She's is back on Fenbendazole and strict keto. She is being advised remotely about the fenbendazol dosage and keto. The cancer markers plummeted after starting those back up.

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Stomas can have a profound impact upon our self-image. My Pop pop had a colostomy bag in the last months of his life, and my dear Nana couldn’t bear the sight and odor of it, which made it even harder on Pop pop.

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Scott thanks for sharing this data. Gives others in the field some objective findings to help us along with recommended treatments. Please consider presenting for publication some case studies from your population on cancer care for the new Journal of the FLCCC Aliance.

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Certainly. Thanks JP.

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And for the weak patients, sitting on the side of the bed and just bouncing the legs on a mini trampoline or use stationary pedaling on the floor is a great start.

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Agreed.

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You're too funny!

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We so love what you all do... however, we are a bit curious at the staunch continued reliance on "RCT's".. and even "in vitro testing" given the BS that has recently been exposed regarding the manipulation of the data and the publications over decades --- especially the coverup that the FLCCC docs encountered regarding The War on Ivermectin, with Dr Tess Lawrie.

There are numerous documentaries about Laetrile, that sure show that it had a smilier fate to ivermectin and HCQ. Here is one: https://rumble.com/v3wanfv-g.-edward-griffin-world-without-cancer-the-story-of-laetrile-vitamin-b17-19.html. Search Rumble and you'll find dozens... going back to the '70's and as recent as last month. Sure seems like the same story of censorship and blatant coverup.

Also.. strangely, Dr Makis recently did a huge write up on Chlorine Dioxide (Cl02) for cancer... and came to the false conclusion that Cl02 did not really work. He must have missed the numerous patents, case studies, testimonials using Cl02 in various ways to get rid of cancer.

Here is our patent (Howard Alliger, Frontier Pharm, Snoot!) on tumors: https://patents.google.com/patent/US10105389B1/en - granted in 2018.

Here is another one from Dr Aparicio in Mexico: https://d197for5662m48.cloudfront.net/documents/publicationstatus/143097/preprint_pdf/8ba803f5067b0bd11fa23e71ca59baba.pdf.

Here is another one for small cell lung cancer: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9636887/

And there are more from Andreas Kalcker and the gentleman from China. Here are links to numerous papers: https://andreaskalcker.com/en/publications-in-humans/

So many alternatives to chemo and radiation... would sure love to see you all talk to more people who have actually recovered using these alternatives... here is a great video (ok, quality of audio is a bit rough, but the stories are impressive) ... also well known and credible people in the Medical Freedom world : https://rumble.com/v31ofp6-who-cured-their-cancer-with-mms-chlorine-dioxide-todd-callenders-personal-t.html Todd Callender is in this video... cured himself of bladder cancer 15+ years ago.

Here is a link to a presentation we are doing for an international group of docs this month.. see slides 26+ for pics from our research on 6 types of cancer in mice with Stony Brook University: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nw30la0tdty5n1467fg3w/2024-PDF-Snoot-Frontier-Overview-Presentation-2024-05-29-Australia-Edited-2024-06-04.pdf?rlkey=pv6wmhm698ownpibqisgie0px&dl=0

Love to chat with anyone interesting in putting this into live testing...

Michelle

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Hi Michelle,

Have you read Dr Marik's book?

Peace,

Scott

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Thanks to Michelle, I would like to take this opportunity to report on our latest human case results: Currently, I am guiding three breast cancer patients in self-treatment (self-treatment is feasible for breast cancer patients). The consistent outcome is a tumor reduction of more than 50% within one month after injection and more than 70% within two months. I estimate that for larger tumors (over 7 cm), three to five injections could completely dissolve the tumor.

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I'm jumping in. Scott/Pierre/Paul, you are flat out wrong. It blows my mind that a medical freedom organization founded on IVM suppression would push the cyanide propaganda. I wonder if horses eat apricot seeds?

Secondopinionfilm.com is the definitive documentary about how the medical industrial complex kills, steals, and destroys any natural cancer remedy... this was (and still is) the WAR on LAETRILE. You are remiss to speak against it. With the evidence of Lucifer himself pulling the MIC strings today, you have now initiated yet another tragic Medical Freedom Malfunction. You are going to get ALOT of blowback. RETRACT, and Come out of Babylon gentlemen!

https://peter70x7.substack.com/p/medical-freedom-malfunction

BTW - Did Pierre ever apologize to Bryan Ardis who produced a mountain of receipts on the venom.

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This is also a lie. I presented successful cancer case reports about Chlorine Dioxide - you know when you lie like this, it's very easily exposed.

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See my reply above

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Hi Dr Makis - this was your conclusion on your ClO2 Substack that confused us:

"Is there evidence of Chlorine Dioxide having anti-cancer activity? Yes. Definitely.

Is there enough evidence to know how to use it in humans? No, not at all."

We have proof based on our own patented process, done in conjunction with Stony Brook University, that ClO2 kills cancer, plus the numerous case studies in people coming in from all over the world via the Telegram group, the Andreas Kalcker groups, etc.

We'd love to get chlorine dioxide into formal human testing in the US, maybe we can all work together to bring this to market. The number of people (and animals) suffering because no one knows about this, is criminal.

Michelle

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